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How Many Trades Before Your Stats Mean Anything?

A seeded simulation, with the method on the page: what a zero-edge strategy measures at 20, 100 and 500 trades, and how often a real edge looks like a loser.

3 Nov 2026 · 6 min read

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There is no number of trades after which a statistic is safe, but the spread of what you can measure shrinks with the square root of the sample, and we ran it to show how slowly. We simulated a strategy whose true expectancy is exactly zero, a fair coin paying +1R or −1R, and asked what expectancy a trader would measure from 20, 50, 100, 200 and 500 trades. In 26% of the 20,000 runs of 20 trades the measured expectancy came out at +0.20R or better. Nothing was wrong with the strategy; it was a sample.

How we ran it

  • Model. Every trade is an independent draw: a win of a fixed size with a fixed probability, otherwise a loss of exactly 1R. No costs, no slippage, no change in the market, no change in the trader.
  • Two made-up cases. A coin flip (50% wins of +1R: true expectancy 0.00R) and a real edge (40% wins of +2R: true expectancy +0.20R).
  • Sample sizes. 20, 50, 100, 200, 500 trades. For each, 20,000 separate runs, each ending in one measured expectancy (the average result per trade).
  • Reproducible. The generator is mulberry32 with seed 20261102, and the tables below are rendered from the script's output file, so nothing is typed. The model above is all you need: re-run it with any generator and your figures should land close to these.

A coin flip, measured

True expectancy 0.00R. The columns show the middle 90% of what the 20,000 runs measured (5th to 95th percentile), how often the measure came out below zero or at +0.20R or better, and the longest losing run in the sample. The last column is a cross-check from a formula, 1.645 × σ ÷ √n with σ = 1.00R, which should sit near the 95th percentile.

TradesMeasured, 5th to 95thBelow zero+0.20R or betterLongest losing run, median (95th)Formula
20−0.40 to +0.40R42%26%3 (7)±0.37R
50−0.24 to +0.24R44%10%5 (8)±0.23R
100−0.16 to +0.16R46%3%6 (9)±0.16R
200−0.11 to +0.12R47%0%7 (10)±0.12R
500−0.07 to +0.07R49%0%8 (12)±0.07R

At 20 trades the middle 90% runs from −0.40R to +0.40R, for a strategy that is worth nothing on average. At 100 it is −0.16R to +0.16R, and at 500, −0.07R to +0.07R. Quartering the spread takes sixteen times the trades: the width falls with the square root. The share of runs at +0.20R or better drops from 26% to 3% between 20 and 100 trades, so a +0.20R measurement from 20 trades is weak evidence and from 100 is stronger, though still not proof. The losing runs are the other lesson: with nothing wrong, the median sample of 100 trades still contains a run of 6 losses in a row, and about one in twenty contains 9 or more.

A real edge, measured

True expectancy +0.20R, with σ = 1.47R. Here the question flips: how often does a strategy that really does make money measure as a loser? (The formula column is the spread either side of the true +0.20R.)

TradesMeasured, 5th to 95thBelow zeroLongest losing run, median (95th)Formula
20−0.40 to +0.80R25%4 (9)±0.54R
50−0.16 to +0.56R16%6 (11)±0.34R
100−0.04 to +0.44R10%7 (12)±0.24R
200+0.04 to +0.36R3%9 (14)±0.17R
500+0.09 to +0.31R0%11 (16)±0.11R

In 25% of the runs of 20 trades, a strategy with a true +0.20R edge measured below zero, and at 200 trades it still did in 3%. A trader who abandoned it after a bad first sample would have dropped something that works; one who kept a coin flip after a good first sample would have kept something that does not. The sample cannot tell those two apart at 20 trades.

What we are not claiming

  • This is not a threshold. The honest answer to "how many trades" depends on how large an effect you are trying to see against how much your results scatter. Larger scatter (a bigger win-to-loss ratio, as in the second case) needs more trades for the same precision.
  • Real trading is messier than the model. Results are not independent in a trending or quiet market, sizes differ, and the trader changes. Those make real samples less reliable than these, not more.
  • Both cases are made up. Neither is any trader's results, and the simulation says nothing about whether a method works. This is arithmetic, not advice.

What to do with it

  1. State the sample beside every figure: "+0.20R over 60 trades", never "+0.20R".
  2. Keep a fixed rule for what you change after how many trades, decided before the sample, not after a bad week.
  3. Compare your measured expectancy with the spread for your sample size in the tables, not with zero alone.
  4. Separate samples by method: pooling two systems into one list makes the average describe neither.

The measures this applies to are expectancy, profit factor and win rate against reward-to-risk, and a longer sample also deepens the maximum drawdown you will see.

We're working on a free journal and a backtester, with no date yet. Today Trepeat is a trade copier for MT4, MT5 and cTrader, currently on demo accounts, and you can add notes, a grade and screenshots to any copied trade once it closes, with a calendar of your results.

The journal exports to Excel (.xlsx) and calculates none of these metrics today, so the arithmetic runs in a spreadsheet on that export. See the journal documentation.

Written by the Trepeat team.

How Many Trades Before Your Stats Mean Anything? — common questions

How many trades do I need to trust my win rate or expectancy?

There is no fixed number. The spread of what you can measure shrinks with the square root of the sample, so halving it takes four times the trades. In our simulation a fair coin measured +0.20R or better in about a quarter of 20-trade samples and almost never at 200.

Can a profitable strategy look like a loser?

Yes. In the simulation a strategy with a true +0.20R edge measured below zero in about a quarter of 20-trade samples and in a few per cent of 200-trade samples.

How long a losing streak is normal?

Longer than most people expect. A fair coin's median 100-trade sample contains a run of six losses, and about one in twenty contains nine or more. The page gives the full table.

Can I reproduce the simulation?

Yes, in outline. The model, the number of runs, the generator and the seed are on the page, so a re-run of the same model should land close to these figures.

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